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Today's guest, Diyala, is the first time we encounter a
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ุงูููู
ุงูุถูู ุฏูุงูู ุงูู ู
ุฑู ูุตุงุฏู ุณู
ูู
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great figure in the world of cinema, and this director,
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ูุจูุฑู ูู ุนุงูู
ุงูุณููู
ุง ูู
ุฎุฑุฌ ูุฐุง ุงูู
ุฎุฑุฌ
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this is what you say. He asks for the ink a lot. What is the
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ูุฐุง ู
ุง ุชูููู ูุณุงู ุนู ุงูุญุจุฑ ูุซูุฑุง ู
ุงุฎ ู
ุง
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idea? He was always a
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ุฏุงุฑ ุงูุงููุงุฑ ุฏูุงู ุฏูู
ุง ูุงู ููุฑูู ูุฏูู
ุง
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pioneer in the world of Moroccan cinema.
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ูุงู ุณุจุงู ูู ุนุงูู
ุงูุณูู
ู ุงูู
ุบุฑุจูู ุงูุถูู
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Our guest today, quite simply, is the wonderful Hisham
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ุฏูุงููุง ุงูููู
ุจูู ุจุณุงุทู ูู ุงูุฑุงุฆุน ูุดุงู
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Al-Hassan. Thank you, welcome. May God bless you with a great day.
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ุงูุญุณู ุดูุฑุง ู
ุฑุญุจุง ุงููู ูุจุงุฑู ูู ููุงุฑ ูุจูุฑ
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Great for you, my brother. The first thing to do is
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ูุฐุง ูุง ูุจูุฑ ููู ุงุฎููุง ูุงูู ุญุงุฌู ุจุนุฏุง
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congratulations on your movie. Marukum Badass. The one that had a
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ู
ุจุฑูู ุนููู ุงููููู
ุฏูุงูู ู
ุฑููู
ุจุฏุงุณ ุงููู
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tones on Netflix, and this is a
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ุฏุงุฑ ูุงู ุทููุฏููุณ ูู ูุชููููุณ ููุฐู ุญุงุฌู
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very honorable thing for Morocco, because little has we seen that a
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ู
ุดุฑูู ุฌุฏุง ููู
ุบุฑุจ ูุงู ูููู ููู ููุดููู ุงู
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Moroccan film with a tones on one of the platforms in the
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ูููู
ู
ุบุฑุจู ุดุฏ ุทููุฏููุณ ูู ูุงุญุฏ ุงูุจูุงุชููุฑู
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case of
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ุจุญุงู
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Netflix started to rise before we returned to Hisham.
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ูุชููููุณ ุจุฏุงู ุงููุถู ูุจู ู
ุง ูุฑุฌุนูุง ููุดุงู
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Asri let us call everyone to date with this movie. This is an idea.
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ุนุณุฑู ูุฏุงู ุงู ูุถุฑู ุจูุฐุง ุงููููู
ูุฐุง ููุฑู
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What a shame. It was thought that it was a joy for all of us.
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ูููุงุด ููุดู ูุงู ุชูุธ ุจุงูู ูุฑุญู ูููุง ูููุง
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Why is the movie on Netflix
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ุจุงู ุงููููู
ุนูุงุด ุญูุช ูููู ูู ูุชููููุณ
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and supposedly popular in Morocco?
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ููููู ุฒุนู
ุง ููู ุงูุจุงู ูู ุงูู
ุบุฑุจ ููู ุนูููุง
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We fight with him, we fight with him, we want him, we don't
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ูุชูู ู
ุนู ูู ูุณุงุฆููุง ูุณุงุฆ ู
ุนู ูุถุงุฑุจ ู
ุนู
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want him, but the idea that he
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ูุถุงุฑุจ ูุจุบูู ู
ุง ูุจุบูุด ูููู ุงูููุฑู ุงููู
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allegedly embellishes through the numbers through Zakshi
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ุฒูููู ุฒุนู
ุง ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุงูุงุฑูุงู
ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุฐุงูุดู
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T on Netflix is โโthat we have opened the door. We as a
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ุท ูู ูุชููููุณ ูู ุงูู ุชุญูููุง ุงูุจุงุจ ุงุญูุง
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complete creator, I mean, we are still pure, like you.
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ูู
ุจุฏุน ูุงู
ููู ูุนูู ู
ุงุฒุงู ุตุงูู ูููู
ุงููููู
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My feature film number eight is without you. The young people started to take
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ุงูุทููู ุชุงุนู ุฑูู
ุซู
ุงููู ุฏููู ุงูุดุจุงุจ ุจุงุด
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control of Netflix and run Hanaya films. They will run
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ูููููุง ูุชููููุณ ูุฏูุฑูุง ุงููุงู
ููุงูุง ูุฏูุฑูุง
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this original Netflix in Morocco is still
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ุฏู ุงูุฑุฌููุงู ูุชููููุณ ูู ุงูู
ุบุฑุจ ุญูุช ู
ุงุฒุงู
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considered one of the regions for us, the rest of the rest of Si
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ุนุชุจุฑ ููุง ูุงุญุฏ ุงูู
ูุทูู ุจุงูู ุจุงูู ุณู
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Marchi, as for Netflix, many people came and saw it in
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ุงุฑุดู ุจุงููุณุจู ููุชููููุณ ู
ูู ุฌุงู ุดุงููุง ูู
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Morocco and found that it is not enough for
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ุงูู
ุบุฑุจ ููุงู ุงูู ุณู ู
ุงุดู ู
ุงูููุด ุจุฒุงู ุชุงุน
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my kidneys to have anything to do with it. This language is
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ูู ููููู ู
ุงูููุด ุจุฒุงู ุชุงุน ูุฐุง ุงููุบู ุชุงุนูุง
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a little difficult for us. Extra, what is the point that the song is like the
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ุดููู ุตุนูุจู ุงูุณูุชุฑุง ู
ุง ุงูุนูู ุจุงู ุงูุงุบููู
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chest of the ball, like the chest of the cinema, it is not coming out,
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ูุตุฏุฑ ุงููุฑู ูุตุฏุฑ ุญู ุงูุณููู
ุง ุญู ูู ูุชุฎุฑุฌ
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but it is okay. You always have the scope of cinema, the
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ูููู ููุจูุง ุฏูู
ุง ููุฏูู ุงููุทุงู ุชุงุน ุณููู
ุง
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author,
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ุงูู
ุคูู
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I mean, the directors are well-known, but they looked like the
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ูุนูู ุงูู
ุฎุฑุฌูู ู
ุนุฑูููู ููู
ุจุฑุง ููุดููู
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hermit. I mean, we were there, but we wanted to do
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ุงููุงุณู ูุนูู ููุง ุฏุฑูุง ูุงู ูููู ุจุบููุง ูุฏูุฑ
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something. What we enter into the imagination of the
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ุดู ุญุงุฌู ุงููู ูุฏุฎู ูู ุงูู
ุชุฎูู ุชุงุน ุงูุฏูู
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Arab countries. Morocco has a lot of needs. He can
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ุงูุนุฑุจูู ุงูู
ุบุฑุจ ุนูุฏู ุจุฒุงู ุงูุญูุงูุฌ ููุฏุฑ
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show them, he can play on them, we can limit them, so we can
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ููุฑููุง ููุฏุฑ ููุนุจ ุนูููุง ูู ููุตุฑ ุจูุง ุจุงุด
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make our own movies without you, Netflix, the
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ูุฏูุฑ ุงููุงู
ุชุงุนูุง ุฏููู ูุชููููุณ ุงูุญุงุฌู
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beautiful thing. I was going to Netflix called
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ุงูุฒูููู ุญูุช ุงูุง ุฏุงูุฑ ุจุฌู ูุชููููุณ ุณู
ูุช
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Sidi Fallon
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ุณูุฏู ูุงููู
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2022, and the thing that amazed me at that time was that it
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2022 ูุงูุญุงุฌู ุงููู ุจูุฑุชูู ูุฐุงู ุงูููุช ูู
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lasted for 25 minutes. What
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ุณุฌ ูู ุดู 25 ุฏูููู
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amazed me was that I was in a lot of times, they had a lot of songs that were not
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ุจูุฑุชูู ูู ุงููู ููุช ูู ู
ูู ุทููู ุทููู ุจุฎ
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dubbed, in five languages, I added 85 languages. We are the ones who
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ุฏุจูุด ุฎู
ุณู ุงููุบุงุช ุณููุช 85 ูุบู ุฏู ุงุญูุง
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made a kind of movie, and we were going to go to
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ุงููู ู
ููููู ููุฏูุฑ ูููู
ูุดููู ููู
ุดู
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France to watch it, and we were going to watch the press, and we wouldn't
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ููุฑูุณุง ููุชูุฑุฌ ูููุง ูููุฏูุฑ ุงูุตุญุงูู ููู
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go like that. Dealing with the condition of this movie is
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ููู
ุดู ูุฐุงู ุงูุชุนุงู
ู ุจุญ ุจุญุงู ูุงุฒ ุงููููู
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like a hit on this festival, this is Kigio, like your atmosphere,
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ุชุนู ูุชุณุงุฑ ุจููู ุงูู
ูุฑุฌุงูุงุช ูุฐู ููุฌูู ูุฌูู
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in the end, the whole world can watch your
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ู ุงูุงุฎุฑ ุฏู ุงูุนุงูู
ูุงู
ู ููุฏุฑ ูุชูุฑุฌ ููู
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accuracy, and this is a cork on the bellies of everything, as I have access to
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ุฏูู ูุฏู ููุฑู ุนูู ุจุทูู ููุดู ููููู ุงูุณุณ ุนู
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Mexicans, your
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ู ู
ููุณูู
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eyes are on everything, and this is a strike force, allegedly, for us to invest in a power system, so
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ุนููู ุนูุฏ ููุดู ููุฐ ููู ุถุงุฑุจู ุฒุนู
ุง ุฎุตูุง
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we are trying in Morocco to
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ูุฎู
ู
ูููุง ุณูุช ุจุงูุฑ ุจุฒู ููุญุงูู ูู ุงูู
ุบุฑุจ
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put the money in. These are the films of experiments. Everyone has
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ูุญุท ุงููููุณ ุจุงุด ูุฏู ุงููุงู
ุงูุชุฌุงุฑุจ ูู ูุงุญุฏ
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an experience. Cinema was not an industry, it
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ุชุฌุฑุจู ุชุง ุงูุณููู
ุง ู
ุนู
ุฑ ู
ุง ูุงูุช ุตูุงุนู
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was not a point of view. I mean, we returned
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ุงูุฏุฑ ู
ุง ูุงูุช ูุฌูู ูุธุฑ ูุนูู ุฑุฌุนูุง
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to cinema as an art, so that it was the point of view of an artist. The
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ููุณููู
ุง ููู ูุชููู ูุฌูู ูุธุฑ ููุงู ู
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artist. Society was
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ุงูููุงู ุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน
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based on a society in which we did not live and walked
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ุชู ู ุนูู ู
ุฌุชู
ุน ุงุญูุง ู
ุง ุณูููู ููู ูู
ุงุดูู
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with it. We did not know how to push
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ุนู ูู
ุง ููุนุฑูู ู
ุงูุฏุฑูุด ูุฏูุน ุงูู
ุชุฎูู
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our imagination unless we did not feel the music that
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ุชุงุนูุง ุงูุง ู
ุง ููุงุด ุญุงุณูู ุจุงูู
ูุณููู ุงููู
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Katbadl means 2004 and 2005. All of Dabaโs music is
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ูุชุจุฏู ูุนูู 2004 2005 ูุฏุงุจุง ูู ู
ูุณููุงุช
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up to the pulse of society. How can it be
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ูููุถุฑ ุนูู ุงููุจุถ ุชุงุน ุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน ูููุงุด ูุทูุฑ
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without you? I want to write about it. Allegedly, the good thing about it
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ุงู ุฏููู ุงุจู ูุชุจูู ุงูููุชู ุฒุนู
ุง ุจุงููุณุจู
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is that people watch the
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ู ุงูุญุงุฌู ุงูุฒูููู ูู ุงู ุงููุงุณ ูุชูุฑุฌูุง ูู
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work and have a point of view that they can
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ุงูุนู
ู ููููู ุนูุฏูู
ูุฌูู ูุธุฑ ููุฏุฑูุง
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discuss whether it is disappointing or bad. Allegedly, for
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ููุงูุดูุง ูู ุฎุงูุจ ููุง ุฒููู ุฒุนู
ุง ุงูุง
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Art, the moment is from me. The movie
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ูุงุฑุช ู
ู ุฎูุงู ุฏูู ุงููุญุธู ู
ููู ูุชุญุท ุงููููู
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is no longer mine, nor is it people's people. They fight over the movie,
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ุงุจูุงุด ุชุงุนู ููุง ุชุงุน ุงููุงุณ ูุถุงุฑุจ ุนูู ูุจูู
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they fight over the movie. The one who liked it didn't like it. The one who
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ูุชูุงุชู ุนูู ูุจูู ุงููู ุนุฌุจู ูู ู
ุงุฌุจูุด ุงููู
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wants to run a podcast on it says, "Zuyen. Whoever wants to run a podcast on it, he says, 'Fail, his
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ุจุงุบ ูุฏูุฑ ุนููู ุจูุฏูุงุณุช ุจุงุด ูููู ุฎูุจ
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problem.'" We are
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ุดููุชู ูุฐุงู ุบูุฑ ูุฎุฑุฌููุง ุบูุฑ ู
ู ูุงุญุฏ ู
ู
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pure art,
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ูุฑุซูุงูุง ุดููู ู
ู ุงูุจูุฌูุฏู ุชุงุน ุงููู ุงููุธูู
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especially when we have a message. Do you think that
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ูุญูุง ุฎุต ูููู ุนูุฏูุง ุฑุณุงูู ุงู ุงููุช ุชุธู ุจุงู
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cinema has never been educational? Cinema
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ุงูุณููู
ุง ู
ุนู
ุฑู ู
ุง ูุงูุช ุชุฑุจููู ุงูุณููู
ุง
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has been
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ูุงูุช
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like a scout, giving us a psychological state of
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ูุชุฎ ูุดูู ูุชุนุทููุง ูุงุญุฏ ุงูุญุงูู ุงูููุณูู ุชุงุน
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a nation at a particular moment, a
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ูุงุญุฏ ุงูุงู
ู ูู ูุงุญุฏ ุงููุญุธู ู
ุนููู ุชูุซูู
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historical documentation of an era in your society,
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ุชุงุฑูุฎู ููุงุญุฏ ุงูุญูุจู ูู ุงูู
ุฌุชู
ุน ุฏูุงูู
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and it can be imaginative for all people. I, for
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ูุชูุฏุฑ ุชููู ู
ุชุฎููู ุณุฏู ุจุฒุงู ุงููุงุณ ุงูุง
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example, am in Maroukieh. They will make me laugh so much. People will
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ู
ุซูุง ูู ู
ุฑูููู ุญ ูุถุญูููู ุจุฒุงุงู ุงููุงุณ
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tell you that I was exposed to reality. We will say, Okay, where did
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ุชููููู ูุถุฑุช ุนูู ุงููุงูุน ููููู ุงููู ููู
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you see this reality that you saw in this movie?
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ุดูุช ูุฐุง ุงููุงูุน ุงููู ุดูุชูู ูู ูุฐุง ุงููููู
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Where did you ever see it? A scene that saw this reality
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ููู ุนู
ุฑู ุดูุชูู ุจูุงุตู ุดูุช ูุฐุง ุงููุงูุน ูุฐุง
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says this to you,
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ุชููููู
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and when you come to see it, you will find that it is a word that
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ู ู
ูู ูุชุฌู ูุชุดูู ูุชููู ุจุงูู ุบูุฑ ููู
ู ู
ุง
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has no meaning. I mean, reality is a word that has no
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ุนูุฏูุงุด ู
ุนูู ูุนูู ุงููุงูุน ููู
ู ู
ุง ุนูุฏุด
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meaning. No, there is no world. Our parallels are
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ู
ุนูู ู ูุง ุนุงูู
ู
ูุงุฒููุง
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mine. Like I imagine Casablanca, every movie I have is like
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ุงูุง ููุชุฎูู ูุงุฒุงุจูุงููุง ูู ูููู
ุนูุฏู
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I imagine Casablanca in a different,
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ููุชุฎูู ููู ูุงุฒุงุจูุงููุง ุจุทุฑููู ู
ุฎุงููู
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different way. Every time we see it in a different way, like a picture in a
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ู
ุฎุชููู ูู ู
ุฑู ููุดูููุง ุจุทุฑููู ููุตูุฑู
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different way, most of the dogs are pictured
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ุจุทุฑููู ู
ุฎุชููู ุง ูู
ุงูููุงุจ ุชุตูุฑ ุจูุงุญุฏ
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in one way. In the end, they are pictured in one way. The sea behind you is in one way, and a hot pasture is in
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ู
ู ูุฑุงุฆูู
ุจูุงุญุฏ ุงูุทุฑููู ูู
ุฑูู ุญุงุฑู ุจูุงุญุฏ
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another way, and we are always thinking, okay, so that
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ุงูุทุฑููู ุงุฎุฑู ููููู ุฏูู
ุง ุชูููุฑ ู
ุงุดู ุจุงุด
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we can be close to reality. We cannot see it in one way. Something far
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ูููู ูุฑุงุจ ู
ู ุงููุงูุน ู
ุงูุฏุฑ ูููู ููุดูู ุดู
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from reality, and I built with them one of the worlds
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ุญูุงูุฌ ู
ู ุงููุงูุน ูุจูู ุจูู
ูุงุญุฏ ุงูุนุงูู
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that is close to science fiction.
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ุงููู ูู ูุฑูุจ ู
ู ุงูุฎูุงู ุงูุนูู
ู ุงูุง
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As for Ash, the idea is that Marouk is hot. How is
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ุจุงููุณุจู ู ุงุดู ูู ุงูููุฑู ุชุน ู
ุฑูู ุญุงุฑ ูู
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